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                                2018-06-14 02:30:35新京報 ·作者:劉素宏 張皓月
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                                警惕巨頭跑馬圈地,傷害文創多元生態

                                2018-06-14 02:30:35新京報 ·作者:劉素宏 張皓月

                                從媒體人轉型做投資人,尋找中國創客發起人、中國創客導師、北京文投集團總經理戴自更喜歡問,“你說對嗎”。他要通過不斷詢問年輕人,來確認自己對于最新投資風向的判斷。


                                尋找中國創客發起人、北京文投集團總經理戴自更。新京報記者 朱駿 攝

                                  從媒體人轉型做投資人,尋找中國創客發起人、中國創客導師、北京文投集團總經理戴自更喜歡問,“你說對嗎”。他要通過不斷詢問年輕人,來確認自己對于最新投資風向的判斷。

                                  做文創投資,他更喜歡發問,因為他要在不斷詢問中探底。他的投資價值觀和辦報的核心理念一樣:真善美。碎片化的文化消費產品和審丑的調侃需求,大多無法符合他對文化產品的定位。

                                  想投出有長久生命力的產品和項目,這是戴自更對文創領域的期待。對于投資人而言,除了發掘好項目,更要盡力為文創創業者提供好的生存空間。除此之外,他還在關注巨頭資本跑馬圈地下文創項目的生存困境。

                                  “轉型投資人,恒定價值觀是真善美”

                                  新京報:最近文創圈崔永元爆出了范冰冰、馮小剛陰陽合同的事,你怎么看?

                                  戴自更:陰陽合同其實是這個行業里普遍存在的。從崔永元爆料的角度講,我認為他是對的。我們的稅制等有有待完善的地方,但大家必須要遵守游戲規則。

                                  新京報:這件事背后映射出影視行業演員薪酬、制作成本高企,但優秀的內容不多,原因出在哪里?

                                  戴自更:我們能看到影視中技術的改進,但技術只是表象,故事的核心還是人性和價值觀。現在很多電影說不清傳遞了什么。故事、情節都可以變,但背后應該體現文化和價值觀。《陽光燦爛的日子》這樣的片子為什么能夠打動人?馬小軍調皮、有很多缺點,但他身上體現了年輕人的迷茫、困惑,和時代背景緊密結合。真,才會動人。

                                  新京報:每代人有每代人的文化,你認為電影傳遞的價值觀應該是恒定的?

                                  戴自更:對,目前我們的文化產品建立在沒有根基的沙子上,人的審美、情操、價值觀都無處安放。每個人都很焦慮、動蕩、多變。因為底層的價值取向不統一,賣座的電影既不關精英什么事,也不關大眾什么事,很盲目。

                                  新京報:從辦報紙到做投資,你自己恒定的價值觀是什么?

                                  戴自更:起碼是真善美。媒體求真,電影的故事可能是編的,但情感要講究真實;善就是向上的,好的;美就是審美的感覺,是美好的,而不是現在有些人追求的審丑,比如短視頻平臺上的惡搞段子,它帶來的是短暫的流量,但一陣風過去,留下了什么?

                                  新京報:你對如今的內容生產者有什么建議?

                                  戴自更:我認為作為內容生產者,必須告訴人家一點有價值的東西,要符合真善美的欣賞標準,而不是去消解、去惡搞正常的價值體系。

                                  “警惕巨頭入場催生估值泡沫”

                                  新京報:你做投資后,思考最多的問題是什么?

                                  戴自更:我特別想弄明白BAT的整個生態。阿里騰訊幾乎覆蓋所有的賽道,有點贏者通吃的局面,但其實扼殺了好多創業者的機會。創業者很難繞開BAT,選擇投靠BAT,長遠來看,這對創新未必有利。

                                  新京報:對于創業者、早期投資人而言,有BAT巨量資金來接盤,不是皆大歡喜嗎?

                                  戴自更:表面上看似乎是好事。但是對于創業者和投資人的傷害在于,一是巨頭的戰略投資推高了估值,制造了泡沫。上市之前先拿一輪BAT的錢已成為趨勢,但巨頭已不滿足于僅僅做PE輪,當巨頭的投資越來越向早期項目蔓延時,對整個創投行業是不利的。項目估值虛高已成為行業問題。

                                  二是大資本給創業公司的獨立發展埋下了隱患。估值泡沫做起來不難,但隱患在于,創業者如何繼續撐起這么大的估值。初創公司商業模式并未成熟,此時一旦資本不再續命,創業公司就面臨崩塌。這樣大起大落的悲劇,我們今年已經在“共享單車”上看到了。

                                  三是要警惕投資節奏被擾亂。資本可以起到加速的作用,但項目的發展一定是有周期的,投資人要抱定這樣的價值觀,避免心浮氣躁。如果都想去賺快錢,那也違背了創業投資做價值發現的初衷。

                                  新京報:對文化領域的威脅是什么?

                                  戴自更:文化內容生產如果被資本綁架,是很麻煩的事情。我認為文化產業應該是多元的,多層次的。比如抖音可以活得很好,快手、秒拍也都有它的生存空間。

                                  但是現在的資本急功近利,一定要拼出“你死我活”。資本一旦把棋下死了,后續的資金跟不上,文創平臺和內容很容易就垮臺,這是對文化多樣性的傷害。

                                  新京報:但從另一個角度看,獲得巨頭投資的文創產品也能得到巨頭的平臺和流量扶植?

                                  戴自更:這也是問題。換個角度看,如果(產品)沒有獲得平臺的投資,那就得不到流量扶植,甚至可能遭遇“封殺”直至被搞死。如果大量的創業項目必須要成為“XX系”的企業才能生存下去,創新創業的環境怎么可能好?

                                  我認為要警惕這種新型壟斷。巨頭應該意識到自己的邊界,不能去做全生態。法律制度應當對新型壟斷作出判斷和規制,為創業創新營造更好的環境。

                                  新京報:在你看來,這件事有解決辦法嗎?

                                  戴自更:建議完善法律法規,避免巨頭企業到處兼并、收購。比如美國的六大電影公司,其實都是良性競爭和合作。我們應該有一個好的游戲規則,避免“你死我活”、非此即彼的資本廝殺對文化生態的影響。

                                  “資本逐利,但每筆投資背后都有價值觀”

                                  新京報:國內文化產品本質是消費品,消費品不在乎長久,而更在乎能不能收割流量或者給投資帶來指數級增長?

                                  戴自更:投資當然為了賺錢,但要掙長遠的錢。從投資角度,通過指數級增長退出當然不錯,但長遠看,有恒定價值觀的文化產品才能走得更遠,才能為投資者帶來更好的回報。

                                  對于投資人來說,每一筆投資背后都有他的價值觀。文化需要一種將其視為歷史榮耀的敬畏之心,而不是盯著消費的帽子把文化的價值一下子吃干榨凈。這背后是一個普遍的對于文化的價值觀認知問題。

                                  文化要講究價值觀,投資要賺錢,擁有好的價值觀的產品一定會有市場的,一定是可以賺錢的,這兩者并不矛盾。

                                  “文化與科技結合將會誕生更多偉大公司”

                                  新京報:你最近關注什么樣的文創項目?

                                  戴自更:從內容的角度講,還是不希望看到粗制濫造的東西。歸根結底還是想更關注有價值內核的、能長久的產品。

                                  新京報:開始進行文化產業投資以來,你捕捉到哪些積極的市場信號?

                                  戴自更:付費內容的方式我特別欣賞。電影、電視劇、文學作品等的付費其實也是在培養用戶對知識產權的基本的尊重。我是做媒體出來的,受夠了盜版、抄襲對原創的沖擊,覺得很無恥。

                                  新京報:未來文創產業最有可能出現的新商機是什么?

                                  戴自更:在以往單一靠廣告變現的時代,日活、時長是關鍵,獲取流量是與廣告商談判的重要籌碼。但在今天,隨著內容產業的消費升級,用戶對于好內容的渴求越來越強烈,支付越來越便利,支付意愿和付費習慣逐漸形成,用戶付費率、付費收入正在成為越來越重要的衡量因素。

                                  創業者也不要簡單停留在模仿和跟風,一擁而上。投資人熱切盼望市場上出現好的文化產品,而不是一味跟風,趕熱度,賺快錢。投資要為好內容提供長久陪伴和助力,尊重文化多元。

                                  我認為,做平臺的機遇越來越少,文創領域未來兩大方向值得關注。

                                  首先是深耕某個垂直領域的項目,專注、專業、深入,在某個領域做到最好。

                                  其次是文化與科技結合的項目。今后中國的創業趨勢一定會從模式創新到技術創新,文化與技術結合將會產生更多機會,會誕生更多偉大產品和公司。

                                  互聯網技術催生了更多平臺型公司,對好內容需求越來越強烈,能夠生產優質內容的創業項目一定大有機會。

                                  新京報記者 劉素宏 張皓月

                                  (新京報記者蘇琦對本文亦有貢獻)

                                編輯:王曉琳

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